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natural finish

Postby johnarnold » Thu May 21, 2015 10:46 am

hello all

Is there any way after sanding down a lovely bit of english ash that I can keep looking exactly the same, i have used osman wax and tried a bit of danish oil, looks lovely but i prefer the look after a fresh bit of sanding

thanks

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Re: natural finish

Postby tusses » Thu May 21, 2015 11:26 am

try a water based PU.
Any finish will alter the colour, but I've had good results with water based PU varnish for keeping it light.

test on a scrap 1st ! :-)

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Re: natural finish

Postby johnarnold » Thu May 21, 2015 11:32 am

ok cheers man

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Re: natural finish

Postby ftacarpentry » Thu May 21, 2015 7:42 pm

Symphony coatings do a 2% sheen polyurethane lacquer that will look as though you have done nowt to it...

Only any use if you are set to spray of course!

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Re: natural finish

Postby mark270981 » Thu May 21, 2015 8:07 pm

Water based PU? thats new to me? is that any good?

On a side note I am impressed with Symphony coatings, morrells not too pleased I have given the business elsewhere
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Re: natural finish

Postby york33 » Thu May 21, 2015 9:23 pm

I finally gave up on Symphony and moved to Morrells these last couple of weeks :-)

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Re: natural finish

Postby mark270981 » Thu May 21, 2015 9:31 pm

Why?
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Re: natural finish

Postby york33 » Thu May 21, 2015 10:45 pm

Inability to deliver paint in one piece! Every order for the last year at least has been broken en route.

It goes like this, place order, wait a few days while it doesn't turn up. Ring up, they chase up courier, usually they tell me it's been damaged and courier is returning it to them. Wait a few days for courier to return to them. Ring up to see if courier has returned to them, then wait a few more days for them to courier more paint. Open it up quickly on arrival, if it arrives and quickly decant it from the tubs it's arrived in as even though it's arrived, they're still seeping paint out.

They always make it in the end and at their expense (obv) to be fair. They pack the tubs really well, really strong boxes round them, loads of bubblewrap, ect. But they're obviously just sh&te plastic tubs, or the courier is doing a happy dance on them for a laugh! Paint's good, they're polite, etc, but I just can't be bothered with it any more, they're probably glad to see the back of me too!

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Re: natural finish

Postby tusses » Fri May 22, 2015 7:47 am

mark270981 wrote:Water based PU? thats new to me? is that any good?




Hmmmm .. just been to check the tins .. Oil based and water based tins are "almost" identical.. but the water based one doesn't say PU
So I could be wrong on that one .. sorry OP !

The brand I use is Johnstones

The water based varnish colours the wood less than the oil based


EDIT .. just googled, and yes, you can get water based PU

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Re: natural finish

Postby johnarnold » Fri May 22, 2015 10:23 am

arr no spray gun im afraid just working from shed so not much room, did get A portable thicknesser which save me a lot of time processing the raw timber, lot of work getting rid of the plane marks tho 2 steps forward but only 1 step back ha

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Re: natural finish

Postby Neil_C » Fri May 22, 2015 1:08 pm

I've used Liberon Kitchen & Bathroom Varnish on a number of ash tables and it was the most natural I could find.

It is also simple to apply by hand.

As always, try it on a test piece beforehand. If you're near Nottingham send me a pm.
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Re: natural finish

Postby mark270981 » Fri May 22, 2015 5:37 pm

Tusses

I suppose I am lucky as I have a branch about 7 or 8 miles away in the city centre, and they use their own vans to drop it off to me.

Sometimes we have ordered at say 11am and they've delivered it by lunch time.
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Re: natural finish

Postby tusses » Fri May 22, 2015 6:24 pm

mark270981 wrote:Tusses

I suppose I am lucky as I have a branch about 7 or 8 miles away in the city centre, and they use their own vans to drop it off to me.

Sometimes we have ordered at say 11am and they've delivered it by lunch time.


I guess you mean York33 :D

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Re: natural finish

Postby mark270981 » Fri May 22, 2015 8:03 pm

whoever wants to listen lol
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Re: natural finish

Postby york33 » Fri May 22, 2015 8:32 pm

I feel so special now!

Bloody southerners :-)

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Re: natural finish

Postby karl » Fri May 22, 2015 8:42 pm

mark270981 wrote:Water based PU? thats new to me? is that any good?

On a side note I am impressed with Symphony coatings, morrells not too pleased I have given the business elsewhere


Out of interest Mark, why did you switch to Symphony? i've just started using Morrells, but have had the Symphony rep over too.

Cheers

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Re: natural finish

Postby thatsnotafestool » Fri May 22, 2015 10:18 pm

Chestnut micro-crystalline wax is pretty good. But I also use AquaCoat SP from Smith and Rodgers. It is water based and designed for floors but does not colour the original wood very much.

It is impossible to find a finish that will leave ash looking like it has just been sanded. That's the reality.

Danish Oil is the spawn of Satan. I hate the stuff. If you must use oil then use a more modern product like Osmo.
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Re: natural finish

Postby mark270981 » Sat May 23, 2015 6:59 am

Karl - I felt that the service from morrells slipped, and the quality too.

Because of the nature of the business, all fast track and everything needed yesterday we rely on fast deliveries and communication.
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Re: natural finish

Postby johnarnold » Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:35 pm

been away but thanks all, i am using finishing oil which is good for now , now i apply it properly that is


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