Door fixing

[rhrwilliams]

The main door was in bad shape and the opening reduced at some point so it basically didn't fit. so a new stile was put on . Someone else did the stop champher and made the stile as I couldn't make a good job of it . I put it on with loose tenons (as tenons for some reason had been cut off) and have started to splice bits of wood in and strip paint

As soon I can find a pair and a half of big finnial hinges on eBay it will be sanded , painted (in original colour -Colbalt Blue) and hung (waiting for Colbalt blue pigment for linseed paint which is surprisingly expensive !)

I've never spliced timber in before , but it's actually easier than I first imagined .

[JonR]

The proper way to splice a piece in especially where a hinge is to be cut out is to dovetail it in, much stronger mate but harder to do.

[Meccarroll]

The proper way to splice a piece in especially where a hinge is to be cut out is to dovetail it in, much stronger mate but harder to do.

Seen this sort of thing done many times and always looks a bit naff as the straight 90 deg cut always cracks over time and the splice often dislodges. If you are working on site and short of time then a quick splice repair is accepted practice otherwise replace the stile in the workshop.

Dovetail splicing would probably hold out much better than a straight cut splice. Keep the joint as is if you want to but it will probably fail in time.

Mark

[rhrwilliams]

The hinges are going on the new stile side . Perhaps I should have replaced both stiles instead of just the swing stile

I wouldn't even know where to start dovetailing a splice ! I might have a go on a scrap peice of wood .

I'm on the woodworkuk , on the job apprenticeship, learning things as I go !

[Rogerdodge]

FWIW, the realisation that dovetails are doable for mere mortals came to me quite late in life - looking at the stuff you have already produced, you could easily add them to your set of skills. Go for it.

Rog

[rhrwilliams]

Thanks for the support .

I don't want to replace the stile as replacing the other stile took me ages to do and was fiddley .

I'm going to try to dovetail a new peice in as suggested - is this how it would be done, or have I got the wrong end of the stick ?

[JonR]

Not like that kinda DT, you cut in a piece square but angle the cuts like a dovetail I think any of us would struggle to do it like that unless you are one of those ninja Janpenese joiners

[rhrwilliams]

https://www.facebook.com/ilovewoodwork/ ... 166734557/

Like these ninja joiners !

Is this what you mean ? Sorry I'm abit slow on the uptake !

[JonR]

Lol the other way around Rodders my old son !!

[rhrwilliams]

Ha, yes of course ! Sorry , your going to start calling me trigger soon !

[JonR]

Actually as Mecarrol states it will crack over time probably quicker than you think with a new softwood splice piece, I have loads of Douglas fir from goddington manor Orpington a 150yrs old building you can come grab a piece and use that to splice in if you want it may hold up better over time......or !! Do you still have the old stile that would be the best option to use some of that.

[rhrwilliams]

Take 2

Thanks for the offer Jon but I have a small amount of reclaimed Doug fir from the church . (I think it's Doug fir anyway !)

Hopefully this is better than before - it looks better and its definably a tighter joint .

I passed a Victorian house being demolished a while ago and was going to see if they would give me any wood - might try next time I see somewhere being demo'd

[JonR]

Its good enough for me, well done.

[Meccarroll]

Its good enough for me, well done.

Previous joint was ok for a quick work around but this joint is a vast improvement. You will soon be a pro

Mark

[rhrwilliams]

Thanks guys appreciate the help as always . I get loads of help from this forum .

On a big job in Camden I did the contractor was paid £12 for a scarf repair that size . How can someone possibly do that for £12 inc materials . It's a joke

[tusses]

Thanks guys appreciate the help as always . I get loads of help from this forum .

On a big job in Camden I did the contractor was paid £12 for a scarf repair that size . How can someone possibly do that for £12 inc materials . It's a joke

I'dunno .. a bit of wood, and 10 minutes work ! ? .. seems good to me

[rhrwilliams]

Lol that's where I'm going wrong . Took me 2 days !